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Combination Discipline Compilation
Publisher: White Wolf
by Dori E. [Verified Purchaser]
Date Added: 11/01/2018 14:50:37

This is a repost from and update from a review that we left in the comment section.

The first thing we commented on is that we thought the book was a little pricey for the amount of playability the book had. There were a few disciplines that didn't have appearance in any of the combination disciplines offered. Though since our original posting an update has fixed some of this issue. The biggest problem with the book is most of the disciplines are have high level of mastery required. As mentioned by Jonathan P, "Most of the Combination Disciplines use really high level of Disciplines as prerequisites (more often then not, more then one level 4+ disciplines) and/or really uncommon discipline combination." This makes the odds of a player ever aquiring them very low. Just with in the first 12 pages of the book we counted 5 combo disciplines with prerequisites that were level 6 or greater. Most vampire games, don't even let players play characters with generations that low.

Now that that was said, the book was well put together. We really did enjoy the read, and having access to some of the combo disiciplines presented for NPC characters would be of great benefit. We do believe this book is a great addition to any storyteller's library, but players would find very limited use of the book.



Rating:
[4 of 5 Stars!]
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Combination Discipline Compilation
Publisher: White Wolf
by Jonathan P. [Verified Purchaser]
Date Added: 06/02/2018 10:23:56

Most of the Combination Disciplines use really high level of Disciplines as prerequisites (more often then not, more then one level 4+ disciplines) and/or really uncommon discipline combination.

I feel there should be a lot more of weaker combination discipline using a combination of low-level (3-) common discipline (or one discipline from the majors cam/anarch/sabbat clans, plus one or more low level of common discipline), as more vampire would have achieved the needed combination to actually experiment with it and develop the Combination Discipline.

For a combination discipline to exists, a vampire must not only have the requisite disciplines mastered, but someone with these required disciplines mastered enough had to have the interest and possibility to experiment with it until he acheived something, after a lot of trial and error... If the prerequisites includes too obscure a combination of discipline, or too high level of mastery in disciplines who are not normally found naturally in an established clan, there's really little chance that the Combination Disciplines would have been discovered in the first place...

Don't get me wrong, Combination Disciplines with uncommon/high level discipline should exists, as their creation is not entirely impossible and there's a place for them... But I feel they should represent only a small fraction of all available Combination Disciplines... That for each of those really uncommon Disciplines, there should be at least 5 disciplines that require lower level of more common disciplines.

And there's also the usefullness (from a player's perspective, since a storyteller cand bend the rules for the benefit of the story and create custom Combination Disciplines as he see fit anyway) of the content of the book to take into consideration... Sure, some Storytellers will run story were charaters are old vampire starting with a lot of experience, so they might make use of this material...

But from my own experience (it might not be representative, but i played with a lot of different groups and it was mostly the same each time), games where you start from basic character creation rules, without additionnal experience, are WAY more common, and often time by the time the campaign end, while some experience was gained and you had quite grown as a character, you probably don't have gained enough experience over the course of the whole campaign to spend on the prerequisites of most of these Combination Disciplines, plus the cost to learn the combination discipline itself, less you focus most of your gained experience into this, without really improving Attributes/Skills/Other disciplines/etc... And since learning some of these obscure prerequisite disciplines (Daimonion, Mytherceria, Temporis, Thanatosis, Obeah, Visceratika) actually require an opportunity in game that as every chance of never happening... From a player's perspective I doubt I'll really have a lot of use from the content of this book.



Rating:
[2 of 5 Stars!]
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Creator Reply:
Jonathan, I'll be honest I'm not sure what you're asking for, and asking the community at large their opinion on your review nor are they. I have taken the time to pull a break down of the powers in the book based on the highest dot required for the power. Here is what I found. Rank 1: 5 Rank 2: 12 Rank 3: 42 Rank 4: 35 Rank 5: 16 Rank 6: 3 Rank 7: 2 Rank 8: 1 More than 1/3rd of the book is level 3 as you were saying you wanted. I'm sorry you feel the book won't get much use from you but that would come down to the Storytellers you also are engaging with and not my writing. I'm perfectly open to suggestions but as it stands I'm not sure what it is that my book did to earn 2 stars, no one has had a major issue until now. If you can provide me with something more concrete I'd be happy to offer a solution, I've added content before for people upon request and suggestion, a large number of Discord and Facebook people have asked for things. When you think of something feel free to let me know.
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Combination Discipline Compilation
Publisher: White Wolf
by John M. S. [Verified Purchaser]
Date Added: 01/14/2018 10:35:44

The Combination Discipline Compilation is a great source of material for games masters and players alike. I was particularly fond of the Baali powers that could be found in this volume, though there were plenty of cool powers for other clans. If you would like to know more, I have done a full review on my website, HERE



Rating:
[4 of 5 Stars!]
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Creator Reply:
Again, thank you for the very fair handed review John!
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Combination Discipline Compilation
Publisher: White Wolf
by Edward P. [Verified Purchaser]
Date Added: 10/08/2017 23:10:54

Are you looking to challenge more experienced players? The powers in this illustrate the flexibility of the Storyteller system, and should spark many great ideas for Vampire elders. Some are going to question the price, but there is a lot of material here. This book is pretty well laid out, the powers listed alphabetically. I'm looking forward to more titles from the author.



Rating:
[4 of 5 Stars!]
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Creator Reply:
I appreciate the wonderful and very fair review of my work! I'm always updating all of my products with new powers and pieces so keep an eye out for them!
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