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Vampire: The Masquerade 5th Edition Second Inquisition

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The secret Church and the hidden State, hunting the hunters in cities and across continents.

An antagonists’ guide to the rising Second Inquisition, this book contains:

  • Opponents of your Kindred, and their special forces and equipment
  • Information on the fires rising against the world’s vampires, stoked by the Society of St. Leopold and the American FIRSTLIGHT black program
  • New tools to expand your chronicles, including eldritch Artifacts, dozens of dangerous antagonists, and the tactics your coterie can use to fight back

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  • 140 page full color PDF
  • This is a supplement for Vampire: The Masquerade 5th Edition Roleplaying Game Core Rulebook
 
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Nina R June 30, 2022 4:52 am UTC
I bought this during the presale on Renegades own shop, so at least I had the pdf included with the hardcopy for a too high price.

Nothing in this book is really useful. Pages full of statblocks about supersoldiers and weapons, barely useful information about the structure of the inquistion, no details about their biggest success - the destruction of the chantry in Vienna (because that operation was too much "outside the standart operating procedure")

I want to like V5. But after the shitty Sabbat book, this turd and the H5 book - which does not include the Inbued, but who was interested in those anyway? - plus Renegade's price policy and their communication - heard anything about W5 recently? - makes it very easy for me to bury the entire IP.
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M. E. F June 28, 2022 10:32 am UTC
I have the hard copy. It offers a lot of stat blocks and some background motivational material for the Second Inquisition. I don't find it to be *extremely* valuable to running the Second Inquisition as antagonists, however. It's fine, but you can easily do without it if you've some idea how to portray government spooks and rogue covert ops.

Like with the Sabbat book, I can't fathom a US$32 price for a pdf of Second Inquisition. It costs a substantial fraction of a hardcover copy for a modest supplement of YMMV material. The previous publishers of V5 material provided PDFs with retail print copies. Chaosium and Arc Dream for example also do this with Call of Cthulhu and Delta Green respectively — Arc Dream only requires proof of purchase. None of these companies price(d) pdfs as high as Renegade either.

I wouldn't recommend purchasing this pdf for more than US$20.
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Karsten Z June 23, 2022 11:03 am UTC
I find that fascinating. When I read the basic rulebook, I found the idea of the Second Inquisition very exciting and I was really looking forward to a sourcebook for it. Only now there doesn't seem to be anything in the book that I really need. Our campaign is set in France, so I was hoping for detailed information about the Second Inquisition in France (Calcédoine program, purge of Marseille, etc.). But there doesn't seem to be anything about that in the book. In general, I would have expected detailed information about the actions of the European authorities and also gladly of other countries. How are the organizations structured, who knows about vampires, who leads the organizations? How do they operate? I mean, it's a sourcebook about the Second Inquisition. So tell us something about it!
Instead, I only get information about American super agents and super soldiers. Great! I don't need an America first sourcebook. So, no thanks, Renegade! I'll pass!
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Geoffrey G June 23, 2022 3:27 pm UTC
What is even weirder is that the core books make a huge point of mentioning Vienna and London and such, and yet it's barely (if at all) covered in this book. I'd expect stuff on the Vatican and at least what the 2nd Inquisition is doing in the Middle East, since the Middle East is THE vampire hot spot. Yet all they cover is about 15 pages of actual back information and the rest of this minuscule, over-priced pamphlet (it's not big enough to be called a book) is antagonist stuff.
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Karsten Z June 28, 2022 3:47 pm UTC
I would have expected that too, but I didn't know if that might have been covered in the Sabbat book.

With the current quality and the rather low sales of Sabbat and Second Inquisition, I'll just wait until the books are no longer made by Achilli and Renegade. The Hunter basic rulebook is officially out and there is no pdf on drivethrurpg and here in Germany no dealer offers it yet and that means no one asked for it either. I don't know how it is in the rest of Europe.
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Maverick S June 17, 2022 8:55 pm UTC
This is ridiculous for the amount of money this costs. Definitely not purchasing this until it drops in price.
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Eugene S June 16, 2022 5:10 am UTC
This must be a joke. With inflation being what it is?
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John D June 14, 2022 2:44 pm UTC
Can someone—anyone—explain to me why the last few V5 books have offered such a tiny amount of content for such a weirdly extortionary amount of money?

I know it sounds like I’m trolling, but I’d honestly be interested to hear the rationale. I can’t imagine that the folks willing to shell out so high an asking price make up for the numerous potential purchasers who *won’t* be dropping $31 U.S. on a rather scanty PDF, but then I never did understand the economics of the tabletop game industry.
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Nathan C June 15, 2022 11:13 am UTC
It's not just you. The lack of understanding of tabletop game industry economics isn't why this looks so off to you.

Renegade Games has their head fully up their own asses with the idea that they can offer very little and charge way to damned much for it. I'd be hesitant to pay this much for the hard copy yet alone a PDF.

Company Decisions like this are a driving factor behind why people pirate this stuff.
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Dominic H June 10, 2022 11:38 am UTC
$43AU is too rich atm. Sale item for sure which sucks.
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Nathan A June 09, 2022 10:26 pm UTC
Still not paying so much for so little content.
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marcel G June 09, 2022 9:28 am UTC
I was really thinking about to buy. But nearly 30 Euros are much heavy on a digital only.
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KEL H June 08, 2022 5:42 pm UTC
I am not paying 30 bucks for a 140 page pdf, that is insane. Like I was interested in buying this product, but that is just too excessive in my opinion.
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Joshua B June 08, 2022 2:22 am UTC
$31.50? For 140 pages? After the disaster that was Sabbat, I'm likely going to wait for a sale.
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Олександр ? June 06, 2022 10:13 pm UTC
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yeah. finally.
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